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The PR Maven Podcast

The PR Maven® Podcast is the combination of traditional networking techniques combined with the power of social media to build your personal and professional brand. The podcast features interviews with industry leaders, top executives, media personalities and online influencers about public relations and their personal brand. Each week, Nancy connects with a special guest to talk about their career, and business or organization, as well as the latest news and events that will give listeners a unique perspective on the world of public relations, marketing and personal branding, including actionable takeaways.

Feb 5, 2019


About David Lee:

David Lee is the founder of HumanNature@Work, a consulting and executive coaching firm, and an associate at Heart At Work, a career counseling firm. 

He works with leaders and business owners who want to bring their best selves to work and help their people (and clients) do the same.

An internationally recognized thought leader in the field of individual and organizational performance, he is the author of more than 100 articles and book chapters that have been published in trade journals and books in the US, Europe, India, Australia, and China. He is also the author of Powerful Storytelling Techniques published by TD Press. 

In this episode:

3:31 – How David started his career in the workplace and career coaching

3:57 – Why stress in the workplace is important to address and the role of the cell phone in creating stress

6:14 – The importance of stress recovery and downtime

7:13 – Nancy talks about attention deficit trait

8:50 – The importance of courageous conversations and asking yourself about the conversation you most need to have.

11:08 – Components of a courageous conversation and an example with a co-worker. 1. Story 2. State 3. Intention 4. Verbiage

20:20 – Why you should work out in the morning to get your day off to a good start

23:07 – The declaration of conversation and why it is so important in a courageous conversation

27:50 – The importance of storytelling and why David thinks it can be used more in public relations

36:17 – What David has done to build his network by not being shortsighted

39:15 – Why listening is important, and the value of a handwritten thank you and what to include in it to make it stand out

41:38 – Advice for managers and CEOs about thinking less about transactional relationships and engaging relationships

44:45 – How people trigger positive or negative emotions

46:27 – How to be a positive person and how to spread goodwill

47:36 – Quote from David about listening

48:44 – Nancy’s advice for how to be a positive person


On interactions and networking: “So many people are transactional in their interactions and they are not relational.” David Lee, Owner of Human Nature at Work

Mentioned in this Episode:

Harvard Business Journal article about attention deficit trait:

Links that David mentioned are available on his website page:

Made to stick by Chip Heath and Dan Heath:

Givers and Takers by Adam Grant:

Jim Carey, actor

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